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    Re: If you had the guts for M-19's

    Still building up my cache of parts. I have 416-16Z, and plan to go the opposite
    direction. Per a few chats I have seen, and logical to me. A cabinet 5-5.5^3.
    With the ability to, eventually adding a second pair. And fill the bottom with 2 or
    3 small subs. I have 2 agendas here. Tightening up a near perfect range of a
    great mid speaker. Plus,since a lifelong apt. dweller. The ability to add or lose
    the bottom as I please.

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    Re: If you had the guts for M-19's

    Quote Originally Posted by bowtie427ss View Post
    I'd sell them as i have multiple times before.
    This would be my preference also, but it didn't seem within the 'spirit' of the query.

    The 360 Onken was what the 'C' owner wanted, so we built it, but I was underwhelmed overall, so we tried a MLTL, which we thought was subjectively better overall, but the best was a relatively high tuned TL, though no bass except in a corner; so all things considered, not an Altec that interests me except for maybe a small room and/or with a separate sub system.

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    edit: Note that this was for a very early pair and have no experience with newer versions, so this might not be a fair assessment of all 'C's.
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    Re: If you had the guts for M-19's

    Apologies folks! My previous post reads with a bit of a "snarky" tone, wasn't my intent to impart the tone, just the opinion.
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    Re: If you had the guts for M-19's

    Quote Originally Posted by bowtie427ss View Post
    with proper 288's and 1505's on top.
    I have the 288 8 ohm aluminum version redone at GPA but I would have to settle for 1803 horns.

    Quote Originally Posted by GM View Post
    The 360 Onken was what the 'C' owner wanted, so we built it, but I was underwhelmed overall.
    Thank you for posting it over at the other site but this is not good news.

    Quote Originally Posted by bowtie427ss View Post
    Apologies folks! My previous post reads with a bit of a "snarky" tone, wasn't my intent to impart the tone, just the opinion.
    Ya, none of us have EVER done anything like that you *******!
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    Re: If you had the guts for M-19's

    Forgot to mention, my babies came home from the hospital today. All nice and shiny. New dust caps, new goop, don't they look beautiful? Sorry for the poor pic.
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    Re: If you had the guts for M-19's

    Quote Originally Posted by Cal Weldon View Post
    I have the 288 8 ohm aluminum version redone at GPA but I would have to settle for 1803 horns.


    Thank you for posting it over at the other site but this is not good news.
    Poor, poor, pitiful you.

    You're welcome! what can I say? After 416A, -B, 515B, the early Ferrite had a tough act to follow. The 360 was too large for the high tuning, so all I could do was increase series resistance and stuff ports. It wasn't bad, just not optimal. An Onken alignment would probably be fine if designed with measured specs + any series resistance.

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    Re: If you had the guts for M-19's

    Quote Originally Posted by Cal Weldon View Post
    Forgot to mention, my babies came home from the hospital today. All nice and shiny. New dust caps, new goop, don't they look beautiful? Sorry for the poor pic.
    Where did you send them--GPA? They look great! (lightened up your photo with photoshop)

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    Re: If you had the guts for M-19's

    Wow, under that light they look horrible! Where's all that crap coming from on the surrounds? How come the cones aren't black?

    Thanks VOTT. They were done here in town at Vancouver Audio Speaker Clinic. The cones remained original. I asked them to pull the dust caps, clean the gaps the best they could [yes, I know], realign one of the coils, clean the surrounds and add some new goop. Once home I gave them some TLC to tidy them up a bit.
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    Re: If you had the guts for M-19's

    Quote Originally Posted by Cal Weldon View Post
    Wow, under that light they look horrible! Where's all that crap coming from on the surrounds? How come the cones aren't black?

    Thanks VOTT. They were done here in town at Vancouver Audio Speaker Clinic. The cones remained original. I asked them to pull the dust caps, clean the gaps the best they could [yes, I know], realign one of the coils, clean the surrounds and add some new goop. Once home I gave them some TLC to tidy them up a bit.
    Glad to hear you were able to keep the original cones--looks like they did some nice work on the "spruce up". The only place I would trust for a full re-cone for my vintage Altecs (if they ever need it) is GPA. BTW, maybe I lightened your photo too much! Is this better?
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    Re: If you had the guts for M-19's

    The only place I would trust for a full re-cone for my vintage Altecs (if they ever need it) is GPA.
    I know a couple fellas "in the business" in that corner of the world, Vancouver Audio is a long and well trusted speaker repair center. They likely source their Altec related parts from GPA, or from the same source GPA does depending on the part, and their work is absolutely on par with GPA's. I've owned some of their work in the past, and if i lived west of the Rockies they'd pretty much be my exclusive speaker repair folks. East of the Rockies GPA is a no-brainer for Altec and Gauss rebuilds, even used to be able to talk them into some Emilar cone repairs a few years back.
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